Wednesday, February 4, 2015

Paradox of method:

When I was going through my Notebooks I noticed the following entry.  I thought it might be of interest to others too.  So I am posting it here.


Paradox of method:

I wouldn't even say paradox of practice: the practice is part of the paradox. Even if you
are in a null-state, the awareness is bound to turn it into a concept and a goal-to-be reached.
You can try to overcome it by snapping out of it. And then you are in a perpetual loop!

But you can constantly rise above everything. Nothing matters, even the paradox.

This paradox may be beyond any human will or intention. It just may have to go on, may
be because we are physiologically compelled to make concepts [and therefore goals] out
of everything we are aware of. The physiological doom! Be that as it may.

Every movement of thought is a movement of pleasure. In fact, pleasure-seeking itself is
a form of seeking security, to find a foundation for the self, just as power-seeking is.

Monday, May 19, 2014

Essays on UG Krishnamurti and Related Topics

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Saturday, May 17, 2014


If you are still visiting this blog, thank you. Unless something else distracts me, I will be visiting these pages from time to time.

Also please know that after waiting for some years to see if some publisher might be interested in publishing my book (I tried various), I have self-published my book and it is now available on as both a print-on-demand paperback and a Kindle e-book on

The Title of the Book now is:

Being Yourself 
Essays on UG Krishnamurti and Related Topics

It looks like this blog is a better way of communicating (expressing myself, at any rate) than through books.  It all started when I noticed someone else put up UG's books (of excerpts) on Kindle; I thought why I couldn't I do the same with my book.  Once I did that, I found there is an opportunity to self-publish the book as print-on-demand.  And I did that. 

There is something to be said about putting the book out as a paperback: it's something you have in your hand and a lot of people would prefer that than trying to read it on a tablet or computer.  If you got the book printed at a local print shop I don't think it will cost less than that.  So there is my pitch!

In the final proof I have eliminated a couple of chapters from the earlier version of the book: one on the Mind-Body problem and the other on Other Minds.  I thought they would detract one from the main theme of the book and in the final reading they didn't seem philosophically sound enough.

Of course, if you happen to read it, feel free to pass on your comments.

You will find my e-mail address at the end of the book.

Also my homepage address has changed: it is now:

Friday, September 3, 2010

The Bugbear of Spiritual Progress

Those who consider themselves being in the spiritual path often tend to measure their progress or achievement. Sometimes they feel elated when they see themselves freed from some hang-ups or attachments and at other times they feel dejected at their failure to be so free. They can even set themselves a standard, say of total detachment, when the "soul can enter the dark night" and find themselves still stuck with some basic attachments like money, sex, achievement, food or what not.

But I think this is all bogus. As long as the measuring mechanism is operating, it is clear that it is active, looking forward to the future and measuring the past against the future. And all these are just ideas. If a person is truly detached, he wouldn't care about enlightenment or liberation. He would be "stuck" with whatever he is or has in the present. In some sense, he is psychologically dead. There is no other life. If it is pain, he is the pain. (Of course, he may not be able to help himself taking a pain pill.) Whatever he is doing, he is involved in it. If he is not, he may just be totally aware of everything. But there is no other life and there is no enlightenment either. He has no choice but to let everything else go. Even when he is occasionally involved in them, he doesn't have feel good or bad about them. That's what he is and there is no transcending them; because that presupposes there is some other life. If he is attached, he is aware that he is attached. On the other hand, when he is deeply involved in them, he may not be even aware of them. He may be stuck with them for the rest of his life. But that's life! As UG says, it's the goal that's the problem, even the goal of letting go of attachment.

The so-called "spiritual hunger" is part of the bogus affair. UG and others usually say that he has no "hunger", meaning that the person has no drive to break through. But trying to have enlightenment as a goal and strive for it, is just as much an involvement as any other. I realize that I don't have that kind of hunger. So I am stuck where I am. But so what?

P.S.: Is There a Thought that Results in no Thought
? The question arises because when there is a moment of mere awareness, it is often preceded by a thought. (But then what other state is not preceded by a thought?) The thought may be one of understanding, disillusionment and some such thing. If the thought results in such awareness, the question is whether the thought is motivated, in other words fraught with duality, or it is not. If you say that it is motivated, the question arises as to how a dualistic thought can generate a non-dual state of mind? On the other hand, if you say, that it is not so motivated, that it is one of mere understanding and so forth, then the problem is how can there be a thought without a motive? I think this paradox can only resolved by accepting the idea that the thought may very well be motivated, but saying so what? It doesn't matter if it is. If this awareness we are talking about is also dualistic, because it is generated by a dualistic thought, so be it. I don't care if you call it a pure awareness or dualistic awareness -- I just don't care about pure awareness or enlightenment. If it happens fine, if it doesn't, fine, too. I think we generate unnecessary duality by worrying about a problem like this.

Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Replies to Previously Unanswered Comments In the post "Introduction and Conclusion to my book "Being""

Here are my replies to comments in the post "Introduction and Conclusion to my book "Being"":

1) Nirvana said...

Dear Prof. Moorty,

Congratulations on the UGK book and many thanks for keeping his memory alive (precious to some of us who met him in the early 70s and to those of us who were 'seeking' then and still do!). I referenced some material on UGK and carried a link to your blog in

It is a blog on Music carrying the memory of the great violinist Chowdiah and how his memorial in bangalore came to be. The threading to UGK is through Chowdiah-> a home "Parvathi"-> Brahmachari Shivaram Sharma.

Best Wishes,

Princeton, NJ
November 18, 2009 4:09 AM

Reply: In my attempt to figuring how to respond to your comment, I just sent you an e-mail through the link provided in your blog. Now I have adopted this method of answering. Your blog is interesting and thanks for linking my blog and articles on UG and Brahmachari Shivarama Sharma.

2) Anonymous said...

I truthfully love your own posting kind, very helpful,
don't give up and keep creating simply because it just simply good worth to follow it.
Looking forward to browse through much more of your writing, thankx :)

Reply: Thank you. I will try.

Replies to Comments on the post "Announcement"

Here are the comments posted under "Announcement" and I will reply to them as I see appropriate:

1) Oliver Harvey said...

Yes please, Moorty! I think this would be a really interesting article to read, and I very much look forward to seeing it..I check back here now and again, and it was nice to read that you're planning a book too..
I hope your arms feel better...and allow you to write!
January 30, 2009 7:03 PM

Reply: Thanks. I went through a lot of health changes in the past couple of years. I seem to be managing ok currently. The book is really a put-together of the various posts in this blog.

2) Anonymous said...

Yes please continue publishing whatever you feel like writing. anything is fine
February 5, 2009 5:47 PM
Anonymous Individual said...

Write and share whatever you can ... If you likes it ..., but do take care of your good health, friend.

Reply: Thank you. I will try.

February 14, 2009 9:37 PM

3) Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

My name is K. Srinivasan, age 39.I hope you are doing well. I had the opportunity to "see" UG and not "meet" him when i was 21. THis happened through a friend of mine, Giridhar who was 10-12 years elder to me, when we went to see UG in Chennai, Ashok Nagar. That was the only interaction, for about an hour and it dumbfounded me as I was brought up in the most orthodox religious ways. I believe it resulted only because of my limited efforts in constant namasmarana in my life, till that time, which brought about the chance to be in the presence of UG.

Now,so much for me. Since that time, for about 18 years, his was the only path which tormented me and kept my internal attention occupied, off and on, but my own inertia did not allow the fire to catch fully. I came to know about UG's passing away only in April 2010. This greatly unsettled me because when I was interacting with Giridhar, he mentioned clearly that UG had said in one of his conversations that he would depart this physical frame at the age of 98, 7 years after JK's passing away at 91 years(though knowing UG's sense of humour he would only have been kidding)and I was in the time warp thinking I would at least get one more audience with him. But this news landed on me as if someone had ripped apart a portion of me and really destroyed the complacence that there is ample time to die. I know there is no way out of this feeling. I am thankful to you for writing about his last few days. As long as we are part of the human species we cannot but identify physically and take part in grief and joy. May all of us die sooner and live thereafter to see our demise. God Bless.
May 3, 2010 4:32 AM

Reply: You are welcome.

Replies to Previously Unanswered Comments in "Notable Travels and Visits"

Here are the comments in the post "Notable Travels and Visits" and I will reply to them as I see appropriate:

1) Tej said...

It's interesting to note that UG cried while watching the movie! The most inexplicable thing about UG, in my mind, was the phenomenon of 'affection' (being physically separated yet involved in accidents). Is there any rational/scientific way to understand this?
April 20, 2009 3:56 AM

Reply Only UG's explanation that it's because of his thymus gland being activated (during his Calamity), his organism responds automatically to what's happening in the environment. It's not compassion in the usual sense, because, as he says, 'compassion requires two'. It's more like the organism vibrating with the environment.

2) Anonymous Aadithya said...

hello, mr.murty.. although this is slightly off topic, i am curious to know as to how ug managed his expenses considering the fact that he had no source of income and he had exhausted his grandfather's property, in his own words, prior to the calamity.

May 9, 2009 1:58 AM
Narayana Moorty said...

Prior to and after his calamity, Valentine, a Swiss friend of his, took care of his needs. Before and after she died, other friends had taken care of them. He, however, never owned any property. Most of the money he took from friends beyond his needs, he either returned to them or gave it away to little girls for their education or to friends to subsidize their needs.
May 9, 2009 8:47 AM

3) Anonymous mrithyu said...

hello mr.moorthy, i just read ur 'fall out' piece. that's some fall out sir. i felt distressed as my own. nice writing ....
May 26, 2009 8:27 AM

Narayana Moorty said...

Dr. Lynn replied to my request and promised to send me his paper on the thymus gland (for me to post it on UG's website), but I haven't received any yet. Maybe one of these days, I will send him a reminder.
May 26, 2009 8:31 AM

P. S.: August 31, 2010: Paul Lynn never came through with his paper in spite of a couple of reminders from me. I gave up.

4)Pushpendra said...

Dr.Moorty, I read your blog regularly although never left any comment. Apologies for that. I have heard and read UG calling Buddha a conman. I am not challenging his opinion rather trying to understand what prompted UG to make that statement. Does he mean that Buddha was not really what he pretended (having attained nirvana) to be? or its because he created "sangha", which kind of goes against what he preached?
December 11, 2009 5:53 PM

Reply: Not just that he created the "sangha" and monasticism, but also that he and his teachings became an ideal for people to follow. "Enlightenment" is not a goal to be pursued, but Buddha and other spiritual traditions presented it as a goal.

5) Pushpendra said...

In one of the books he is quoted saying "Burn Fiercely". What does he really mean?
December 11, 2009 5:58 PM

Reply: I am not sure what you mean. You need to tell me the context or give me a reference for me to be able to respond.

6) Saseedharan said...

Sir, How the thought become so powerful even to the extent that it can control the functioning of Human organism. Is the more advanced brain turned to be a curse rather than a advantage to the human race. why Other species are not affected by thought. How the thought transmit from one generation to another. or as UG would say whether the human organism as a whole live in a thought sphere.I think even if it is possible to get rid of the stranglehold of thought many people will remain reluctant to leave their comfort zone provided by thought.
May 26, 2010 3:03 AM

Reply: I don't know, nor would UG, as to the how and why thought became so powerful that it controls the human being. All we can say is that it has decidedly provided an evolutionary advantage with its concomitant destructive consequences. I tend to agree with your last statement.